Rugby 25 Megathread

Rugby 25
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AI is much improved now, so we can actually enjoy the game while you continue working on core mechanics.

Just a couple of things that can still improve the fun element in the meantime:

  1. AI is better, but their backline attack now needs to improve, in line with previous posts on positioning and line running, so they have purposeful passes (short, long, inside, our back) to target the gaps in defense, with proper support running, next to the ball carrier, targeting the gap in defense.
  2. More AI tactical kicking, whether up and under, grubber, cross kick, deep kick etc.
  3. AI to prioritise clearing their line in defense, i.e. kicking the ball away to relieve pressure when in their own 22 meter area.
  4. Bigger likelihood of AI kicking to posts when presented with a penalty, when the ratings difference between the two teams is small, or it is a playoff game. Normal season game where there is a larger difference in ratings, higher likelihood for the higher rated team to kick for the lineout when presented with a penalty.
  5. AI to make substitutions, whether tactical or injury enforced. This should be easy.
  6. More AI penalties, especially at the ruck
  7. More AI knock-ons, introduce sliders (do not go overboard)
  8. Make Crowd size a match setting, not a graphics setting
  9. Too many missed tackles, not realistic. Tone it down. Sliders? Too many successful hand-offs
  10. Players are running out of the wrong side of the stadium. They should run out below the broadcast camera, from the main pavilion tunnel. Should be an easy fix.
  11. Fix advertising boards displaying black screens, when there are sponsorships selected in stadium creator
  12. Kicker still only using left foot to kick to touch off penalty, when he is right footed

Thanks guys and please make sure no additions break the game

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I tried to have a game today, but this thing that the AI always, alwyas, alwyas avoid the first tackle is really killing me, this is horrible, Iā€™ve stopped playing after two minutes. The gameplay is starting to have some kind of direction, but that ruins everything. Who tought it was a good idea? Please please Big Ant fix that problemā€¦ thank you

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Yeah I am with you, the dodge, fend off or tackle break happens on nearly every first tackle unless you get two players tackling or a rare early 100% hit Iā€™ve noticed. I think you make a very fair and valid point, I do expect this to be addressed by the Big Ant guys.

I think this can be sorted by in game slider, I am guessing it has been done to improve the AI, what it really needed was just the AI kicking deep or box kick / more passes out wide the current AI strategy is to run down the middle at any cost.

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Look at how much better the stadium looks with full adverising wrapping around the stand. When will we see this implemented in R25?

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Yes it was in career mode, not sure if it also happen in friendlies.

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What will it take to buy the 08/2011 engine?
They should have a price, charge extra if you have to!

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On this, the RLL4 stamina system was very good too - both in reg to sprinting and throughout a match.

@JNT_BA, is there any merit in drawing RLL4 comparisons, or is it not hugely helpful on your end?

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Nothing wrong with comparing. Do you find that system/balance is what you personally would enjoy more?

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Massively - it feels as though it drains at a more realistic rate generally, with players gassed at the end of the game, but subs etc carrying a bit more weight. Appreciate rolling subs etc make it not perfectly apt to carry across.

That game has always been a go to for me even as a non league fan.

Passing mechanics, big hits, offloads and evasion all feel super well balanced for risk v reward too

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Hi everyone

Just a few things from me again, playing on hardest difficulty, currently playing career with the Sharks.

Visually I have noticed that the crowd is wearing way more of the away teamā€™s colours, this should be the other way around. I have mentioned in my previous comment that I would like to see a countdown from the crowd before the kickoff and I see that it is actually in the game but only in the knockout stages of the european shield, I have not gotten to the URC knockout stages yet, so Iā€™m not sure whether itā€™s there, but I would like to see this more often.

The only way to win you own scrum is by frantically pressing square on playstation for the scrumhalf to pick the ball and go, otherwise the scrum collapses.

As mentioned numerous times, the fending is unrealistic and should be brought way down.

I also experience a bug where I hold in the pass button to pick where the ball should go only for the ball to shoot past everyone and out the side of the field.

I find that I am having some really close games when I ban myself from using the fend, but also get very frustrated by the lack of defence system currently, my backline drifts towards the attacking player, changing to the next player to perform a tackle is frustrating because most of the time it changes to a player way down my defence line, my fullback is almost always out of position or way down the field, and sometimes after the opposition has fended my player he gets to run around and even into my players who refuses to tackle him, probably in shock of how he just sat my defender down with yet another fend.

Drop goals do not work, the ball barely lifts of the ground and the opposition just picks it out the air causing me to lose possession and defend the length of the field which is often not long by the way the opposition finds it so easy to break my line and the fullback being nowhere.

The crowd is boring as well as the commentators, who often says the wrong things as well, like the famous roasting of you kicking a successful penalty out on the sideline or running into the ā€œwarm embraceā€ of a tackle, what the hell? Commentary can make or break the atmosphere of a game, please remember this, this has been the biggest reason many players lose interest in a rugby game. A simple build of excitement as someone gets close to a tryline or when kicking the winning conversion or penalty can make a big difference.

Thank you

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Offside penalty on turnovers are still there. When 9 is standing on opponent side and moves back slowly.

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On the crowd noise - ideally BA also need to send a sound crew round the most famous grounds to capture each clubā€™s chants too. From a Gallagher Premiership perspective, Gloucester isnā€™t right without itā€™s Shed roasting away teams for a knock on or a decision not going their way in theirā€¦ unique tone of voice (ā€˜You donā€™t know what youā€™re doingā€™ is a chant which gets uttered regularly there) - same with most teams in the league. Harlequinsā€™ fans are loud too, both home and away. Maybe something worth liaising with the clubs about during the next batch of photogrammetry.

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In online mode, when player just leaves game to run in background not playing. Should then stop game and give win to other player. Happens quite a bit.

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To have something like this in the game would do so much for the atmosphere, I hear the ā€œOleā€ chant a lot and to be honest Iā€™m not 100% sure whether a lot of other countries use this chant and being from SA I know for a fact we use it. I got excited when I heard it but that was in a game between The Sharks and Stormers, but then I heard it between a lot of other teams.

But having a loud crowd especially during line breaks, tries, penalty kicks, hard tackles or even try saving tackles would be awesome. Similarly having the crowd quiet down when their team is losing would be great. And having unique chants like you mentioned would be even better.

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Will the passing mechanic hopefully change to look more realistic, for example players not just swinging their arms, but a bit of hip movement as well to capture a real rugby pass

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So Iā€™ve been experiencing my PS5 constantly telling me my console is overheating but only ever get this playing rugby 25, I can play call of duty,Madden 25, crusader kings never get an over heat warning but one game of rugby 25 and I get this warning, have got this issue since the grass was updated but no idea of that has anything to do with it

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In my Romanian league, in very difficult conditions and with temporary exclusions activated, I was voluntarily offside 8 times and no yellow card! Can you give me yellow cards please! I love this game

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Not even going to worry about todayā€™s update, I know we are in for another disappointment.

Imagine paying full price ( Same as an AAA game) and being a Beta tester. And they are already moving to league 5

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Youā€™d be surprised what textures can cause overheating issues. The main culprits are usually foliage of some kind.

Iā€™m not sure if there is an option to turn off grass. I donā€™t think there is.

I donā€™t get the overheating warning but I have noticed my PS5ā€™s fan just start to whirr up a little. Like you I only notice this on Rugby 25. I can play the likes of AC Shadows, RDR2, and any other sports games and itā€™s as silent as anything.

I do assume you clean the dust out of your console from time to time? Including the cooling fan.

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The more I play this game both online and offline the more I realise that almost nobody kicks when playing multiplayer. Thereā€™s almost no point to it. There are many occasions when there is no playmaker to kick with. When you can select one the clearances are hardly worthwhile. I really feel that despite whatever realism The developers are attempting with the distance of the kicks, that in a video game sense they arenā€™t going far enough to make it worthwhile.

Especially when you see what the opposition can do off a kick return, they will mow through your players with the fend and offload. So why kick?

In short Big Ant need to very quickly address kicking because right now it doesnā€™t feel like rugby union. Itā€™s far more tempting to kick in rugby league games up to this point. I mean you have to at the end of a set. In this game you hand the ball to the opposition and give them an excellent chance at a try.

Everyone mentions Rugby 08, but from Rugby 06 on HB Studios had learned that kicking was too redundant in earlier games they had made so brought in Star players that could boot the ball about 60 metres and it was worth kicking with those players. Not to mention even the ordinary players could kick the ball a good 45 to 50 metres.

When is this lesson going to be learned by Big Ant? Iā€™ve played a lot of multiplayer both online and off and the only kicking going on is kickoffs and goal kicking.

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