Hi can we maybe get updated teams ,because I would really like to play with current all blacks squad or at least be able to change it .
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Why is it so difficult for people to realize, you donât have to put more then 3 in the ruck. Stop button smashing, I play on hard difficulty and I rarely put 4 or 5 in the ruck on either side of the ball, on offense and defense I often only put 1 or 2 in the ruck, on offense for quick ball, and on defense when I know I donât have a chance at the steal or pushover. Very simple , just tap 1 or 2 times for the bind? So JNT-BA please donât ever go back to 3 men a ruck, that is a cop out. Rugby has 5 in the ruck and it should not be dumb down to 3. Now having said that, something did happen the last update on the defensive side of the ruck that it seems like it is more random, I liked how the rucks were playing in the previous update, unless there is an added function to rucks , I am not aware of. As mentioned before JNT_Ba you guys have some of the best animations to implement a very good rucking system. Would be nice to seperate the steal vs the pushover , with both having there advantages and dis advantages, also the tackle, stand, and steal on the isolated offensive player has to make a come back and hands in the ruck and holding have to make an appearance to the rucking system to be complete. Quick steals, should be mostly passive grabs, pushovers should be when 3-5 defensive players overwhelm an offense that is taking longer to play the ball. I have always felt positive about the game , the last update , I am not to happy with the rucks. Not sure if I am playing them correctly, but the previous update they seem to playing considerably better. You could anticipate better when you were going to get the jackle or the pushover. But hopefully thing will continue to improve, in other areas like like AI play it seemed to improve, and some support and positioning also seemed to improve. Looking forwared to what the next update will bring. Maybe an every 2 week update?
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Nothing has changed with the Rucks in some time on purpose. If there was it would be mentioned. I know some people will take an update and be like âWTH why did you change this!?â Rucks have not been changed on purpose while we consider what we really want to do with them and what changes 100% will be made. In many cases with lots of mechanics update by update when people think things have changed there has been literally none.
Edit: Apologies, just the AI reaction out of rucks. A few patches ago.
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Hmm, weird, I played like 3 games 10 minute halves 2 on hard and then 1 on medium. And on offense they felt the same but on defense I could not get the turnover when I thought it was going to happen. I am the type of player that will only send 1 or 2 into the ruck mostly on defense until , I see the right time to smash with more. Bind, bind, steal, bind, bind, bind, bind, pushover or turnover. On offense , you can often get quick ball , by just adding 1 or 2 in the ruck, if you have momentum and the AI does not have many going into the ruck quickly, almost like a pick and go, normally a forward envolved in the pick n go. I am sure many have not tried this but, it is in the game. It is risky, but most of the time I do retain the ball on offense doing this, and I get quicker ball. I just think players get bind crazy, and you do not have to do that to get the turnover ( well at least you didnât have to before this update) could bind , bind , steal and get a quick turnover. Will play some more games and see, maybe its an AI more difficult thing that they hold on to the ball, so you canât steal it in an isolated situation and this changes the dynamics of stealing the ball in the ruck? Any chance at going to a two button confirgation for rucks, one being the steal, the other being the pushover, depending on the ruck , one would be better to use? Or maybe tap for the steal, hold down steal button for the pushover?
It is not about people not realising at all. It is not about you playing in a superior way to everyone either. It is about people not liking 5 man rucks and wanting a 3 man system instead. This is a different view from yours but a view that is still okay to have. Just like it is ok to have the view of wanting to keep the 5 man rucks you have.
I personally see zero point to a 5 man ruck, anything you want to achieve with 5 men in the game you can still achieve with 3 regarding committing more or less v the opposition. Teams playing expansive with quick ball often only commit 3 men at most to a ruck in the modern game unless they are trying to secure the ball in specific circumstances.
I would be happy for it to go back to a 3 man ruck and always have those additional players set in pods or good attacking structure. If it stays at 5 though fine, but I will just continue to never use 5 in a ruck anyway.
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We tried to get an online tournament going, but the main issues we are having is the fact that you can almost break every first tackle, and then the success of the offloads, makes defensive play near impossible, every game turns out a high scoring game. If this can be toned down, and break tackles and offloads be skill dependent. But also the rucking system plays a vital role here, if you managed to get the tackle, contesting the ruck should be an option to get a turnover either by a steal or a penalty, so for me the rucks need to be looked at sooner than later, but also the break tackle and offloads.
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How many people you have in ruck makes no difference just play 4 games on hardest 2 games I have put 5 players in ruck on attack and def and last 2 games on attack only 1 player and lost the ball same amount off times thatâs pretty much barely and on defence all I did was spam steal button and AI will pretty much join 1or2 players in and steal the ball same amount off time so as @Valhalla_Vagabond said it makes no difference so for personally think itâs better we going back to 3 man rucks at least it looks better then 5man rucks
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I totally agree with all of that Valhalla. Great assessment of it. Personally I feel like the 3 man ruck situation was generally closer to 90% of the rucks we see in real life.
Although the only way I can see that would make optional 3 or 5 men rucks work would be something like this:
PS5
Tap circle 3 times (adds 3 players to a ruck)
After that: Hold circle down (adds up to 2 more players).
Most of the time Iâm adding 5 men out of haste to get players in and accidentally tapping more often than 3 times. Iâm also tapping it quite a lot at times as it seems like ruck pushovers are somewhat assisted/initiated by spamming the join ruck button.
If you had to hold down circle to get the last two in, then that wouldnât happen, even if spamming/tapping the join ruck button.
It would be extremely helpful if Big Ant or JNT were to tell us all what is the programmed best method for winning ruck ball. Is it spamming the join button, spamming the steal button, alternating between the two? We need to know how they work in order to be able to tell Big Ant if they are working!
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See that is interesting cause thatâs one of the ideas I had floated.
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Can you confirm if you agree that the steal/jackal button isnât working or is there a specific way that you need to press/tap or do in order for it to work. I even went back to the tutorials but it doesnât work there either.
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I donât think the steal button has worked since like EA 3 or 5 or something 
Well not for me anyway. It used to work really well at one point and it was much clearer on what you were trying to achieve at the breakdown. Now I just go (Xbox) B, B, B, X, Y, X, Y, X, Y, X, Y, X, Y, X every single time and generally dominate most ruck stats. Without ever getting an actual steal
Doesnât seem like any skill to it at all currently.
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Agreed. A rucking system that rewarded good decision making and timing would make the game so much more enjoyable and satisfying. Rucks are what make Union so different from League, getting them right is essential.
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Guys @JNT_BA did advise they are going to work on rucks. My question is are there any plans for changing sidestep, and less handoffs from AI?
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@JNT_BA interesting that you mention that nothing has changed with the rucks other than the AI reaction out of it. I play predominantly on medium and the first thing I felt after last weekâs update was that the button input to the rucks felt better. Before the update it felt like I had less control and that even when I only pressed the button once or twice 4-5 players would bind automatically. Now, to me, it feels like players are binding correctly based on the number of button presses. I can see clear moments when I can get quick ball on attack by only adding 1-2 players. On defence I feel I have the same control and can better pick when to add more players to the ruck
So that one will be a little bit of a knock on due to the formation placements, as the player will go to better placings, when they jump around like they didnât know where to go, that was cause they couldnât work out where they wanted to stand or if they should be ready to enter as the game will call for certain positions to come in. But in terms of mechanics, nothing was changed.
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@JNT_BA brilliant thanks for explaining. Was definitely a positive experience that I immediately noticed
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Appreciate this isnât a gameplay point, but is there a list of what teams or leagues had updates and player visuals too?
@BearGamer mentioned the MLR teams that might have had an update of the jerseys, but he wasnât sure.
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The problem is not 3 or 5 in the ruck, itâs player positioning and just like in real rugby, the availability to put 5 in the ruck ( be it the rare occasion) should be in there. No one is playing the game superior, but at the same time I am sure many donât realize you donât have to add 4-5 you can and should only add 1-3 depending on the situation, you have to make the decision when to add 1-5 . By making it only 3 in the ruck you are taken out my option to put occasionally t4-5 in the ruck, by making up to 5 in the ruck means you can continue to put only 3 in the ruck anyways, just resist the urge to press the bind button 1-2 more times.
Other wise maybe they can create the option to do 3 or 5 man rucks, I continue to be of the opinion that ruck management is a huge part of rugby, and up to 5 you have to manage this, with only 3 it is almost like automatic rucks and this part of Rugby should not be simplified. Will have to agree to disagree and to each there own.
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Essentially what I said, so ⌠Yes agree to disagree.
For all the arguments you can make on why a 5 man system is warranted plenty of others have effective counter arguments as to why 3 man rucks are much better. We donât need to agree.
I like the tap 3, hold for 2 additional idea JNT and Nes talked about too. Suits everyone I guess then.
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