Rugby 25 Megathread

Believe the official term for hakas etc is Cultural Challenge if we’re going full World Rugby lawbook here, each team has the option to lay down a 90 second challenge to their opposition, these are the ones I remember off the top of my head:

NZ- Haka (All Blacks and Black Ferns have separate versions)
Fiji - Cibi
Samoa - Siva Tau
Tonga - Sipi Tau

For the cutscene makers, this is straight from WR’s own matchday guide for the people who run these things: “Where only one team is performing a challenge, no player from the team performing the challenge may cross their own 10m line and no player from the team receiving the challenge may cross the halfway line. It is not mandatory for the team receiving the challenge to face it”.

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Yeh I mean the cibi (Fiji) is actually my favorite, but the Haka is iconic and everyone knows it, even outside of rugby so feel it should deffo be in the game!

Surely gotta be an option for a lions tour and eventually World Cup settings, surely!

IF, and only the if coz it’s all pointless if not, if big ant can sort out the issue and let us edit squads and line ups, I think it would be amazing if they could take a look at a “legends” option or something for a few classics teams

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Seen a few people mention about the hand offs not working in side camera and ive experienced it too. Ross put out a tweet today which answers the question.
Very interesting to find out more people play end on, I always thought more people would play on side camera because it more similar to watching a game on TV. But because End On is the preferred play style thats how BigAnt are focussing on the game. Which is why there are functionalities in the game that work using one camera, but not the other.
Also a bit of validation for me after tonnes of replies to me saying “playing on end on is playing on easy mode”, if even the CEO agrees side camera is too hard :joy:
Something ive never really thought about in other rugby games that camera orientation chosen by player impacts the mechanics inside the game, I just thought swapping camera just required the analog sticks input to rotate with it. Ive only ever really played side on in every rugby game before Rugby 25, because personally I think it looks visually better, and any time I tried end on against AI in previous games I found it too easy. So havnt tested swapping cameras in other rugby games to see if they also have difference from a mechanics standpoint.
But thought other “Side Camera” players may want to know about this. We will get fixes eventually, but we may find End On camera will have an advantage long in to development if its the main focus.

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Arent there a few different versions of the nz haka? I always remember the kumate(?) One but they sometimes do a different version

There’s two main ones for the ABs, Kapo o Pango is the one they did through Rugby World Cup but on very special occasions they bring out Ka Mate. All stuff for the animators to discuss with NZR and the All Blacks if they want to implement them.

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I scored a perfectly valid try, but the match continued as if nothing had happened. This happens to me about three or four times per match, it’s awful to score four tries per match and not have them count. I specified this a few days ago and asked to fix the problem quickly if possible. Thank you!

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Can’t perform quick lineout when opposition goes into touch after a restart. All players remain on one spot except for the one I have selected.

Rugby 25 Quick Lineout Bug

Update: I moved the assistant ref on the pitch so they could discuss how to fix this situation :sweat_smile:

I know it’s not accurate to real life but I would love to have all competitions have the teams logo next to their score(like the photo above). Like the Super Rugby UI Design, the Top14 and ProD2 don’t have the logos and it feels like it would just fill the gap and improve aesthetics.

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Another very quick one from me tonight before I play this again :slight_smile:

It’s one looking for advice fwiw :stuck_out_tongue:

I discovered that the best defence option is to go with “rush defence” so what is the best attacking option and what are the options available?

I’m a side cam player myself and what Ross is saying about more players playing end on is true and it goes back a long time now.

I was an admin on The Rugby Forum for several years and we conducted surveys with nearly every game that came out and after a LOT of feedback we discovered that the End On cams would have something like a 55-45% advantage on average. This increased a lot more when side cam was poorly implemented and depended on how poorly implemented it was. Some games where it was terribly implemented it got massively higher percentages.

There are certainly people playing End On on Rugby 25 right now through lack of choice and better end on implementation.

This said, given historical data for other games the percentage of users who use side cam cannot be so insignificant that it’s worth stalling those customers and ignoring what are flat out bugs?

Ross’s answer explains the poorly implemented angle (lack of height and angling down towards the players more), it’s simply they’re catering to the bulk of their customers. Understandable, but surely an approach of “for now we’re stalling a decent subset of our customers with actual buggy issues” is not the way to go?

Some of the issues they are currently exploring and fixing are issues which will only matter to a subset of their customer base and not so much others, this is always going to be the case. So I’m hoping they will help out us side cam users at some stage?

One last thing, side cam is so much better for local or couch multiplayer, as the whole screen doesn’t spin around for every change of possession. It’s much better for both players having a similar and tv broadcast like angle to play the game from.

Big Ant are generally doing a great job with fixes so far, piece by piece this game is getting better. I really hope they can help out us side view players.

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I just wont the ai to pass the ball big time at this point because after 3 weeks and 2 season in career mode im bord

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This is so stupid isnt it, if you cant be assed to implement it properly then dont have the option in the game :joy:

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Good idea that, remove side camera completely :smirk:

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But…broadcast camera… :sob:

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Side was all was in every every rugby game be for rugby 2001 and 08. Rugby 2004 was a joke withs minecraft graphics.

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Broadcast camera :heart_eyes: is where real sports games belong.

As for older games Rugby 95 was not side view tbf and there were some super nintendo rugby games end on. But yeah, a bunch were. Roblox rugby lol.

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Rugby rugby 95 on sega was a bit boardcast wasnt it. Rugby league live 4 dynamic wasnt to bad. But atm i want the ai to mkae passes through forwards and backs

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I looked at some videos and it is always on angle, bit sharper than a broadcast and a little too close in for me. If it was like that but a wider view like they have the end on that would be great.

I think for side on to really work the camera would have to be higher looking down. Not sure if that would solve any of the problems they have with making mechs work or not though.

I never understand how people can see space side on ha ha.

#Broadcastcamerasarelife

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Hight on side view and zoom out works well if developers have done it right

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Hi Big Ant,

Just a quick UI suggestion. After all the effort with photogrammetry you have done (Which looks AAA by the way) it would be great to showcase it a bit more. In the line up screen having the player bust next to their name and rating on the right (As below) would not only showcase it again but can help players make their selections if they prefer licensed players to generic ones (Like I do).

Would be awesome if the player busts were also featured in the transfer market for the same reasons.

Cheers!

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