Rugby 25 Megathread

I started from the beginning around February 20th… and as soon as I posted this message I got my first yellow card :smiley: I hadn’t played career yesterday after the update… my bad I’m happy

Hi Big Ant, two quick notes here

I tried taking a quick lineout, this resulted in the ball becoming unplayable and had to quit the game on Series X

Additionally, more atmosphere in the stadiums can come from flags, advertising and more crowd volume/noise at cruical moments. The blank black boards are making it all very sterile at the moment.

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First time writing in ages, and after getting a good amount of hours in on the game i got some ideas/suggestions/bugfinds for the game.

  1. intercepts, The amount of times when the ai rarely passes that ive read it, and my player just runs into the ball and doesnt pick it up, yet the ai will read the most crazy pass and intercept it? are the intercepts scripted or at random? cause intercepts seem to be near impossible to get in the game.

  2. AI. Ai is the only thing stopping me from getting on the game more. When you are on defense you can just put the controller down because the ai gains no meters at all. I was playing as a random Bangladesh team against new Zealand testing the defense, and i put my controller down and pushed back new zealand from my 22 to their 22. Ai need to be able to identify gaps and whatnot. Also, make them concede penalties more. AI defense is sometimes alright. But seems terrible because im the only one scoring.

  3. Penalties. The ai rarely concede a single penalty all game. Would be nice if the game might have a morale system, which affects discipline, the worse their morale gets (from conceding losing territory etc.) they concede more penalties or errors, with different teams having stronger morale over another.

  4. better attacking options. Set pieces, better lines, backs/forwards differentiated. Have your forward pods with two possible leads for forwards (A&B) and the backs (fly half Y/centre X). More realistic position on field also, if there is a forward pod running up, dont just have the 10 slung out 20 meters away, have him right behind the forwards for a hook. At a ruck/scrum/lineout, 10 should always be first reciever, but i always find him just randomly scattered around the field.

  5. passing. Passing attributes could be better, such as a player with lower passing attributes cant pass as far or as accurately as a player with high attributes. Also, can far passes have height on them? no one is missiling a flat pass 30meters whilst running, would be more realistic if they had some arch rather then a flatline. Different passing combinations would also be nice, like: rb,rb/lb,lb as a wrap around. rb,lb/lb,rb as popping it on the inside to a player
    with them to try break the line. something to give more flow, and skill. Players still sometimes dont run on with pace when they should be.

  6. stepping/hand-offs/bump-offs. I like the new hand offs, that actually slow your player down instead of them not breaking pace and running the whole field, but; ive never had one bump off (flicking up) ever work, so i dont even know if its in the game. But stepping rarely ever works. so inconsistent. only ever had it work twice. Stepping could have more combinations, like goose steps and such.

  7. dummies. Will they be implemented? there are times when im holding rb/lb to pass and i see a gap and run for it to not sell any players and get smashed. maybe if when you hold the pass button and are about to select options, if you let go of the button its a dummy, which would make the ai continue to shift over as if youd pass and take a quick second to react, giving a chance of making a gap or better pass.

  8. try line attack/defence/phase play Can we have forwards running it low and hard when you are 5-10m out. just getting phases together. There isnt really much phase play in this game. Maybe we can select different tactics with the d-pad, like phase play/backs-ball/pick and go’s. which alter some animations and team set up, rather then the kinda useless split/wide forwards thing in the game, but add a buttom prompt to try and dominate collisions, like pressing a has someone bind onto you as you take collision/ which can help you gain momentum and meters, because at the moment you cant actually gain meters from just running it up.

  9. held up. At first every try was held up and now every try is a try. One step forward another back. A button prompt perhaps to score a try? and to hold one up?

  10. tries, i dont think that Ben Tameifuna is going to be front flipping over the try line and doing a figure 8 swan dive or whatever that one dive animation is. I dont hate the animation, its just never used at the right time, every time i go to dive in the corner, i never get that animation, instead my player just turns in and dive on the floor. would be nice if i could have that big aerial dive actually in the corners.

  11. wind. Wind has like no effect. Please make it actually have a big effect in this game. actually challenge you on conversions and kicking for touch rather then moving it 1cm over and slotting it, but actually have to aim outside of the posts sometimes to curl it in, and having impossible kicks if the wind is too strong.

  12. ive never ever had a yellow card in this game. I dont ever even concede penalties. Make it more possible. Have the ref tell you to leave it and if you dont stop mashing x he penalises you. offsides to be fixed maybe? add more ways to concede a penalty, that you may get away with.

enjoying the game at the moment, most of the time, just certain things are stopping me from playing it more.

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Yeah I got the same, on the PS even after the current update

additional, will consoles ever get a texture update? on pc the game looks amazing, on console its alright. No 3d grass?

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First I want to thank Big Ant for the dedication they are showing to this game. Over the last few weeks the game has improved massively and twice weekly updates shows how committed the team are.

I believe Rugby 25 has the potential to be great. Keep on this path, I believe it will be.

However for me, there is a major sticking point to overcome and that’s the AI attack

The current AI is way too predictable, with one off passes from the ruck, and the occasional pass to the man in pocket then a bullet pass to the wing. Its pedestrian rugby and way too easy to read.

Where are the AI pop passes and offloads?

Where are the passes in broken play?

where are the inside passes?

where are the running lines and formations?

Its all too static and the AI stand so deep they cannot get any go forward or momentum.

Please Big Ant, this is a key area that I believe is holding this game back.

Watch any of the content creators and they all the say the same thing. Its the same message…the AI don’t offer enough in attack.

The funny thing is some of early access builds had better AI attacking with offloads and more fluid and random passing structures. Where did they go? Why were they taken out?

Again I don’t want to be too critical but I pray that more positive changes are made in this areas. Get this right, and this game will be awesome!

What do you think would improve the AI attack? What changes improvements need to be made in this area?

Thank you!

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GotBy

Tried the Update, cool to see and play with women’s team.
After some arsh comment from ourselves, the game seems to be slightly improve.
Now SOMETIMES offside is called when i run from ruck line.
Still that has to be consistent and more robust. Also offside should be called (with an advantage) when i don’t tackle the ball carrier.

Seems to me that forward passes from offload are wrongly called as offside penalty.

Also the weird “scrum” call from penalty AI do is still there.

P.S.: i wanna remind you that all the penalty a user could give up, AI should be capable to do it to. So “Hold on” penalty, offside, high tackle.
No matter the difficulty.
Remind you that AB took a Red Card in RWC final. So not even the best are perfect.

Still game seem better. But please don’t dare give this game no attention… work on it

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Beyond everything, what happened to

the issue of the very slow rucks limited to 3 participants?

the very rare penalties and knock ons?

promised set plays?

rain and mud on the players?

sin bins and red cards?

(and much more, such as rolling mauls, scoring from mauls, robotic lineouts, advertising in stadiums etc.?)

The mates who agree to play a few games with me (ps4), if they don’t get bored after a handful of minutes, do nothing but ask me "Why on earth should I buy R25 in life? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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did Wicked give up the licenses for rugby challenge or did they loose it ?
With so many Patches to Rugby 25 , i cant see this game getting better , its clear if you look at other games that released , 1 or 2 sometime 3 patches before is complete , we going to be having 20 to 30 patches before its complete and then another game will release by then , did we enjoy the game or did we move along with the development of the game , Really Bad , really really .

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I don’t know if it’s there a “Rugby” License to lose in the first place. Problably all the lincese for the teams expired or were bought by nacon and they were exclusive deals.

For the rest i agree. We will probably have a R26 before we get a good r25

Makes sense , or maybe the full game will be released at the next world cup lol

BA can you please fix being able to add and remove players from certain teams for example leinster and munster its very annoying and its been said for weeks.

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Still cant add players to created teams very annoying with lions tour coming up.

Ai has not improved lets be honest still will never loose a game.

Pitch has never looked as bad.

Lets not forget this is not early access its been sold full price

There has been no improvement of note and its incredibly frustrating week in week out hoping for something but nevet getting what is being asked

I have been like many on this trying to convince myself that its getting better but everytime after playing a game or two the realisation hits and i turn it off.

BA please stop with this weekly non existant updates and give us fans who have paid hard earned money for this game something to enjoy

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I’m testing out the AI now with a 20 minute half AI v AI match. I’ll post the result when complete. I’m already going to predict a 0-0 final score. BRB with the result.

Update: Final Score RC Vannes 5-7 LOU Rugby

Ok so there were a couple of tries in the game but by and large the AI is still pretty much the same as before the patch. A marginal improvement at best. If Big Ant put their efforts into fixing what’s wrong with the game instead of adding more content then we could have a good game on our hands. They do need to focus on improving the AI if players are going to have any kind of challenge in this game. Plus for AI v AI enthusiasts like myself it would make for a more realistic game and score line. But I agree with everything that folk before me have said regarding all areas requiring improvement. This really ought to be a major priority over any more content additions. Big Ant please don’t follow the philosophy of so many other game developers by adding a ton of content but not fixing the base game. I’m on the bandwagon for the long haul but we really need to see improvements before too long guys. :+1:

Feels really great to play with the women teams! Good job!
The only problem that I’ve noticed so far is that there are too many bump off since the last update, looks like the AI beats the first defender the 80% of the time now.
But step by step, we’re having an almost decent rugby game. The problem is still the gameplay, but at least now it’s kinda playable. Keep on with the great job!

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Can’t appear to be able to play mens friendlies stuck on women’s teams

What is with the branding looking so much better for the same stadium when its a womens game v a mens game. It makes no sense, it cant be licensing which is the excuse for everything, considering twickenham is night and day between a womens game and a mens game. The womens matches even have accurate chants/songs.

Hey it’s been a while since I’ve popped on here for some feedback but as someone excited for the women’s teams to be added I thought I best let you know about some issues.

  • Team management doesn’t work in the women’s six nations. Any changes are not reflected in game.

  • Women’s teams are limited to just 5 subs instead of 8.

  • Nice work on the pitch advertising but why not include that in the men’s matches?

  • Hopefully I’m not being stupid but there looks to be lots of new stadiums whilst playing the women’s six nations which are not available in play now.

Those are just women’s exclusive issues I’ve come across but here are a few things for the overall game.

  • When AI teams try to kick the ball out at HT/FT they make a complete mess of it and don’t use any power in their kicks. It usually goes straight to my team.

  • Pyro/fireworks don’t work all the time.

  • AI are still selecting scrums too much for penalties.

  • When a player is injured and the ref calls stop the game the game hardly ever stops. I’ve seen one injured player cutscene.

  • Will we get substitute cut scenes?

  • The AI kicking game is none existent, could we see them using more grubbers/up and unders etc. That would immediately make things more interesting instead of the normal passing patterns.

  • Speaking of the kicking game the Ai hardly ever kick the ball away when on their own try line. This makes things very easy as you just tackle them over the line and regain possession. Teams in that position would 99% of the time kick away. (Unless you are the Bristol Bears :bear:).

That’s everything I can remember at the moment (I’m sure there are more). Thanks very much for the regular updates and for continuing to try your best to improve the game.

Here is a link to my latest video if you’d like to see the new women’s features.

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Yeah, Virgin Media Park (Ireland Women’s second ground in the tournament) seems to be exclusive to Competition mode, bit of a shame considering that Munster do also use it on occasion for smaller games when Thomond Park is unavailable.

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And it actually looks great. Advertising, flags etc, but cant use it in career mode, online or free play. It is mind boggling. Perhaps this will be our big update next week, womens and mens stadiums now have the same effects..

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