I wrote this patch is VERY GOOD, but AI bombs returns are a PROBLEM, I didnt write thats always so, but when my serve doesnt have impact or consequences on the kind of return of cpu and it,with some players,70% times hits hard baseline angled having 10% time reaction thats unrealistic and annoying, playing on medium ita not fine for me because too easy, so my complaints are few and specifics, i think devs need fix just this, unless they make sliders as in AO2, so everyone happy
I don’t know if any of you look around but there is a Chanel on yt called saturator le killer and that channel does videos of expert ai with no meters etc and the latest match vekic against kas shows a good variation in return and shot selection in rally’s etc . Worth checking out as it shows the game in latest update is definitely heading in right direction, still Needs tweaking of course but calling it unplayable etc is inaccurate as them latest videos show .
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thanks, i ll take a look
I played on clay and immediately after that on hard and seems to me that hard is much faster.
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My 2 cents about the newest update…i absolutely don’t like it! The only thing i like is the faster feel and visual representation of serve. xD i am not sure if i am in the minority right now because reading through discord and here i see a lot of positivity that doesn’t reflect my experience how this thing plays now! My observations right now without giving solutions for now! Return bombs happen yes…a lot say that here too but it seems like it depends on the player you play against! Zverev, Sinner or Rublev for example play a lot of return bombs and its just plain bad. I hear some people say that timing a serve is now harder? Not in my experience…sure every player has a different timing there for release but overall i am at 100 percent First Serve and in some cases(when i have a bad day) i am at 90-95. Flats and Top Spins are both just overpowered right now! There is just Reward in the game and almost Zero Risk! The power up timing seems somewhere in the middle of the 31th Oct and the Nov 1. Patch now BUT it’s way harder to go red now on strokes! I could go more in depth about that but thats my feedback for now…not a fan of this build!
the one who made this patch who nothing about tennis or how gameplay should be
Is it any wonder most developers give custom sliders to avoid getting so much conflicting feedback. The ai is definitely more challenging and playing with zero gauges/ meters you can definitely miss time it easier than the previous hot fix / mistake…
Personally I’d still say needs to be slightly more punishing still it’s still better than previous. Personally I’ll take a top difficulty that tough and tweak it instead of just reverting. Definitely requires some adjusting to as it’s quicker paced now but again it’s better than it was a week ago. Again developers seriously consider sliders it’s becoming pretty obvious pleasing everyone is becoming impossible. …
I would add that AI still can’t play strong or accurate volleys, has bad positioning at the net and can’t punish easy drop shot or short balls. Also still passes me easy balls when I’m at the net. @JNT_BA @marktb24 please, be focused on that. But to be clear, overall, I quite like last update.
Best update ever absolutely loving it on Hard difficulty,i am having great matches going to tiebreak sets,adjusted to the cpu service returns and hitting winners off them and i am also getting aces with good speed,please don’t change Hard difficulty at all,the cpu now gets dropshots back even as winners,hardly hits into the net. The cpu with different players now slices more ,hits short angled shots and varies their placement of shots really well including their serve and service returns. The only thing is they need to hit the ball outside the lines more and the game would be near perfect for me.
So just spent couple of hours exclusively on expert and zero meters as always and feedback is
Had 3 line errors from ai in one match, probably because of the the extra power and speed of the shots, still not enough for a full 3 set match but nice to know they ain’t switched completely off .
Timing and aiming still needs to be slightly harder for the user which in turn will increase the overall difficulty and anybody struggling can just drop to lower difficulty until they adjust.
The new service speed and bigger service overall is a big improvement, getting aced a lot more now which is great and I can hit a few myself, this is in a good place.
Ai return,yes they are sometimes absolute unplayable bomb’s but it’s not every return as some are suggesting, I’ve had slice return and mistimed loopy returns , so possibly could do with been slightly reduced or at least make a few miss the lines which would be realistic considering they are going for absolute winners, but still it’s definitely making me loose a lot , currently on a 6 match loosing streak lol but all close losses so I’m all for it , enjoying the challenge.
Overall good update definitely keep the service changes, increase the ai line errors and maybe slightly reduce the power of the ai bomb returns or as said make them more prone to missing the lines , and slightly increase the user timing and aiming,ie more risk/ reward…
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Well said,another thing about serving if we serve not always wide but like a foot inside more at the cpu they cannot get the same swing hitting deep into the corners,i am surprised better players than me are not varying the placement of their own serves and also should serve some slower and different serves like kick and slice but again not always extreme wide because the cpu is waiting for them to punish you.
increase the AI line errors and reduce the power of the AI bomb returns, add effect to fast serves, add classic men Players, add Speed and power slider options
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completely agree…and get better sounds
@JNT_BA not enjoying the gameplay at all. Movement is horrible. Needs to go back to AO2. Gameplay was far better. Just need to carbon copy AO2 gameplay and improve the bugs it had like some of the netplay.
I am the biggest fan of AO2 over every tennis game before but after last update on Tiebreak it is clearly way better than AO2. I went and played AO2 on Grand Slam difficulty last week and i beat it first try yet i struggle to beat Tiebreak now on Hard but win now and again,i play Medium quite a bit now and that is great for me then going back to Hard for more of a challenge. The running is made too easy in AO2 getting to shots you should not get to. AO2 has weak serving with average speed,smash animations are too fast,slice shots come at you from cpu as if they are flat shots deep,cpu when taking you wide outside court every time just sends the ball back to you instead of hitting to the opposite side of the court and that damn glitch that was never fixed when for no reason during a rally you would turn side on frozen automatically losing important points during a match,this was on PS4 version. So if you still think AO2 is better than Tiebreak as of now since last update you may as well go back to AO2 because the game is now not going to be changed to your liking maybe only when sliders are added you can just make it easier for yourself. I use World Tour Movement with no sprinting only to the net and it feels close to AO2 anyway that was the whole point of it being added.
man, the movement is definitely not horrible, its actually impressive, i can understand complaining about the fast pace of the game but the movement is quite good , u need to practice , Ao2 is out dated game right now, tiebreak is way better
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First of all , please don’t change the gameplay back to ao2 lol floaty ball physics etc nope … Obviously don’t know what difficulty you complaining about but in the next update according to developer they are slightly slowing down easy and medium levels according to discord, so that may help you if you on those levels. Just hoping they don’t alter the higher levels the game speed is fine as is .
not gonna lie shivers are running down my spine when i read that somebody wants AO2 tennis gameplay and physics back xD i hated that freaking game!
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Please don’t change Medium difficulty either it is perfect for me,it could even be a fraction harder. If Medium is weakened i will be playing Hard all the time which i love the challenge as i don’t win many matches and just like to drop to Medium for a bit of a break. If devs are going to change a difficulty just make Easy harder and Easiest like Easy.Maybe when cpu makes more line errors Hard and Expert will be spot on and players around my level will pick up more wins. Can’t wait to see how devs make the new Legend difficulty for the better players.
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From the notes on discord I think it’s just slowing pace of the game down on the lower levels.
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