Update on gameplay as the 23th august update

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WHAT HAS IMPROVED

  • AI is now way better they back tracking and use more variation in their shot. They’re also better at volleys

WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED ASAP

  • Its now impossible to hit any ace against the AI on higher difficulties even with a perfect timed serve. I even try using the best server in the game against the weakest player. Imagine a game having an ACE edition where its impossible to hit an ace. Only way to hit an ace is to use the slice exploit

  • aiming has been disabled on safe serves, they can only go to the middle

  • shots precision are now even less risky, im not talking about the ball going to the net im talking about the ball going out. Defensive/weak shots should be more prone to go out too. Even if I would carelessly aim outside the lines and want the ball out ITS NOT POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW, which lead to my next point>

  • Every rally are now way too long, 70% of rallies in real tennis are 0 to 4 shots while only 10% go beyong 9 shots. In the game right now 80% are 15+ shots on higher diff. this is not even tennis at this point its pong with current graphics

  • AI needs to make more double faults even on higher difficulties and their first serve % needs to be between 55 to 75% not 95%+. But dont reduce the amount of aces by the AI while fixing that

  • Slices physics has improved a bit but still needs more work. The first bounce is too low and weak which lead to slices being and exploit on returns

*** Needs to be improved now or later**

  • Footmarks ballmarks and wear are still barely visible on clay

  • On some rigs the ball is trasparent-ish on some venues like Madrid so we can hardly see it, it should be more saturate more yellow

  • a lot of bugs online, so many i cant name them all

  • Stamina is useless right now, it should matter in the rallies

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I would add that when AI has chance to play final ball it plays it usually to the center of the court and everytime I punish it. That also must be improved (Expert).

In my opition AI still doesn’t have a good reactions enough and strokes should be definitely more risky.

And last but not least I would allow scramble only to approach the net like it is in AO2.
@JNT_BA

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Adding to your accurate advices:

  • When you serve open from the advantage side is so easy to win the point. Ai gives back an easy shot and only have to hit left to have an automatic winner.

  • The pace would improve so much if it was easier to hit flat and defend with slices. Now points have always the same rithm. It should be important for the player and AI to be able to modulate.

  • It should be harder to attack a slice shot. Now It has no special purpose.

  • Accuracy may be the most important thing currently. It could work to ways in combination. If you push much time with the stick searching for lines It should be out. Also position and power having more impact. If position is not great more likely to be out. Or/and power bar being much faster and if overpowered affects precision. Softer balls easier to put in, faster ones harder.

Sorry for my english!

P.d.

I must add that evolution in last updates is great. Changes are now much faster and more impactfull and accurate than en EA. Congratulations!

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I have watched tennis my whole life and where the hell do you get 70% of rallies in real tennis are up to 4 shots,do you actually watch tennis because that is a dumb statement, sorry for being harsh.

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U must watch a different sport than tennis then because those numbers are from official stats from past grand slams. U must not think that aces, unreturned serves and forced errors on serves count as 0 and 1. These are where these number are from and next time dont forget that Google is your friend before being a fool

https://www.braingametennis.com/dirtballer/men-rg-vs-us-open-rally-length/

https://medium.com/@adamblicher/why-0-4-rally-length-matters-in-tennis-c70b04bfefb8

https://tennisabstract.com/reports/mcp_leaders_rally_women_career.html

https://www.braingametennis.com/rd-16-australian-open-average-rally-length-for-men-women/

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@JNT_BA
Great patch :+1:

  • The AI ​​makes too many short cross shots which too often deports our player.
  • And when we serve near the outside lines, it is too easy to win the point afterwards
  • can you limit the maximum power of the flat and lift shot to reduce it a little? When we charge it a lot the speed is very too high
  • And please slow down the game speed a bit! We need to build a point not only strong shots
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I was not including aces in my statement as there are many longer rallies when game is in play, i just got the impression that you want the game to have the majority of points really short as i like a 10 plus shot rally.

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It has nothing to do with me wanting points to be short or not and more to do with every points being 10+ shots which is very unrealistic and arcadee.
Not surprised at all that even with sources of official stats u will not admit that u were wrong, why would it matter that you like 10+ shots rallies when we talking about facts? As you can see only ~10% of points goes beyond 9+ shots.
Yes its a video game it doesnt need the same exact proportions but almost every point being long rallies is just unplayable and too far from real tennis

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I continue to beat ai 6-0 6-0 in expert mode :sweat_smile:

Need a big work again. Ai continue to stay 1 seconde in same place after hitting the ball.

On my serve, in win ALL points with my second shot.

Serve right side, they hut the ball and stay same place, i hit the ball left side = Win

Ai can’t break me, NEVER, so i can’t loose any match for now.

But i know developpers work on that and maybe need days, weeks to realy fix that. I will be patient :+1:

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It’s rare for me to be 6-0 in men’s competitions now, especially with strong serve-and-return players like Kyrgios. But the women’s competition is still too simple.